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2003-2008 FCS GREECE/2009-TODAY, FCS KALI HELLAS: THROUGH THE DARKNESS TO THE LIGHT.
Dear colleagues ,
We weren’t surprised by the many lies unleashed by mr fcsgreece because we’ve been watching (with great amusement for the past 6 years) his methods and provocatively schemes in his pseudo-site and blogs. So we didn’t expect anything more ethical or less cheap than the usual trash talking he uses for years now.
Our usual tactic is to simply ignore him, as our policy is not to give (through our work, sweat and words) VALUE TO THE UNWORTHY. Especially to substandard controversial personalities who think that bad publicity is better than no publicity. Individuals of such a small mental caliber start to provoke you and when they are finally confronted, they usually state that they’ve been victims of other people’s jealousy or all the accusations mean that they must be doing their job right and they are truly worthy.
But this time we believe that it’s necessary to intervene because for the first time mr fcsgreece referred personally to our teacher and founder of the art Tuhon Ray Dionaldo. He demeaningly and falsely referred to him saying that Tuhon allegedly cooperated to a deception orchestrated by the former students of mr fcsgreece against him. Something like that was expected. We didn’t expect him to speak about the repeatedly deceptions he committed from the first day he assumed the role to represent FCS in Greece until today…
FIRST POINT:
November of 2003: the beginning of evil…
We would like to elaborate on the few important points, that are worthy of a comment in the interview above and have nothing to do of the indirect or direct trash talk he is using against us. That and all the other points of the interview that openly undermine us we are going to ostentatiously ignore as he needs a great qualitative “upgrade” for us to even concern. It would be like we were equalizing our work and ourselves with him.
Speaking for the first seminar of Tuhon Ray in Greece in 2003 (207 participants) and without forgetting that in his previous answer he artistically distained to refer to the so far effort and hard work of the pioneer in the Filipino martial arts in Greece master Alexandros Petrou:
When asked: How did you manage such a striking difference compared to the past? I assume that the instructor you selected was known in Greece?
In some point he mentions : “My choice was based on the following criteria”:
- Although FCS had no structure as a martial art, for example it lacked a specified curriculum, let alone recorded per level, I saw something different in relation to the other Filipino martial arts, and also it had a very modern approach to them. Additionally Ray Dionaldo was an amazingly skilled martial artist.
Facetiously…:
He has never declared it publicly but only in his few students, along of course with many other lies… Mr fcsgreece states that he organized the unstructured (as he claimed) FCS and thanks to him it now has structure…!!! He falsely claims to those who don’t know the truth that there was no curriculum before 2003. Then he “proves” to them that he created the first DVDs of the curriculum in 2004 and that in 2005 Tuhon followed his example. We wouldn’t be surprised if he stated that he even taught Tuhon a couple of things.
Where we stand:
All jokes aside one of the most “poisonous tricks” of mr fcsgreece is a really good lie. And especially a lie that you can never verify.
What we mean by that is that no one can truly verify if prior to November of 2003 there was a documented curriculum or not. Only ourselves or the founder of the art. No one is going to ask or search. So he took advantage of the situation in order to triumph.
The reality is : THERE WAS A DOCUMENTED CURRICULUM BEFORE HIM THAT EVERY REPRESENTATIVE USED TO TEACH TO HIS STUDENTS. What FCS didn’t have was a videotaped curriculum for each level. There was a big part of the curriculum on video but only from the many seminars of Tuhon. Also in 2003, Tuhon had given him VHS tapes of those seminars in order to help him see the art even before he organize the first Greek seminar.
How come you would ask? He showed a video on the internet to the instructor that first brought the Filipino martial arts in Greece Alexandros Petrou, asking him if he knew Tuhon Ray and if he was good enough in order to bring him for a seminar in Greece. Guro Petrou then suggested to him to ask for some tapes from Tuhon’s seminars in order to see for himself. The founder sent him the tapes but because the format wasn’t identified by a European video they went to Evaggelos Papakitsos house in the summer of 2003 where they FIRST saw Tuhon Ray Dionaldo and the art of Filipino Combat Systems.
One of the “poisonous” tricks he used was the fact that he created a chain of lies. So the previous lie would assist him for the next. Let’s take for example the lie above. As he said there was no documented or videotaped curriculum for each level. Let’s assume now that that was true. Under those circumstances mr fcsgreece was “forced” in 2004 (without PERMISSION and only a few months after he was introduced to the system and Tuhon), to create the curriculum of “FCS Greece”. Implying that way, what he is still saying to his students, that “he was the first one in the world to organize the FCS curriculum”. So with that in mind he artistically, during the first months of 2004, and without of course having the permission of the founder, he created and later videotaped and later presented his own “version” of the curriculum. You see he had to show something to his instructors. So as you may understand there was never time for personal development or training!!
For years he would say that there was no documented curriculum before 2003 in order to justify the need of his “FCS curriculum”. In fact he used to brag that Tuhon not only had approved his curriculum but he was excited with the outcome. Something he claims until today in his pseudo-site.
We understand, reading his interview, that he continuous to spread his lies based on the fact that we won’t bother to respond and reveal the truth. Hoping that his new “clients” will read that interview and since they ignore the history behind it, they will become easy targets to exploit.
In order to restore the truth, his so called curriculum was nothing more than a “mixture” of what he could understand a) from the documented curriculum, b) from the videotapes Tuhon had given him and c) from his interactions with Tuhon Ray (twice). Even during those interactions he never trained properly with Tuhon (1-2 repetitions at best) as mr fcsgreece thought that he was too good to be a “student”. And let’s not forget that all that attitude started after only a few months since he was introduced to the system and assumed the representation of FCS in Greece.
And of course inside the Greek borders he used to brag that he was an “expert knife fighter”. A good example of that and a one easily recalled by the 207 participants of his first seminar (and essentially after his first steps in the art) in 2003. He used to wear an instructors t-shirt, that he made, and he used to wonder around pretending to “correct” the instructors who honored him by participating in his seminar.
November of 2004: The first signs of deviation and arbitrariness are now obvious to the founder
When Tuhon Ray came in Greece in 2004 and saw that “Greek” version of FCS, he asked why there was a need of the “fcsgreece” curriculum to be videotaped and documented. The response of mr fcsgreece was that because the level of understanding in Greece (the Greek mentality as he called it) was very low he had to simplify the curriculum in order for the Greeks to keep up and that the American version of the curriculum was to incomprehensible, not on video and many other excuses.
Also when he was asked why he had the title of Full Instructor in his flyers and advertisements even though he had never been tested for a rank or even knew the curriculum in the proper way,
the Greek representative responded that the title “full instructor” is not a title, just the Greek translation of someone who is training others by profession (full time instructor). And that’s just because he had a gym.
You can see for yourselves the ethics of a representative and a new practitioner of an art. That’s the kind of a “leader” he was…
Essentially he was starting impudently and without asking, his own “business”. A well set “business” of economic exploitation of his domestic students and even the exploitation (yes he did that too) and disrespect of our teacher. A business that it would give food and confirmation to his ego and shape, an otherwise bogus, myth of a great “organization”. Something that he achieved, at least in his flyers and advertisements but never in the real world!
November of 2005: The founders first moves in an effort to bring his “diverging” new representative to his senses and to become one with the FCS family.
By the next year (2005), Tuhon realized with what kind of a “grandmaster” he was dealing with (a kind that is quite common in the martial arts world) and immediately took action. He gave permission to Lakan Guro Ray Cole to videotape the curriculum in order to eliminate that excuse. Also he changed the structure of the ranking system of FCS abolishing the rank of Full Instructor (a rank above the Instructor) a rank that mr fcsgreece arbitrarily assumed on his own, after only a few months since he was introduced to the system and assumed the representation of FCS in Greece. Finally Tuhon created a cooperation protocol between all the representatives of the system. All of the above happened on account of the Greek “leader” and his “promotional” action.
Now let’s put ourselves in Tuhon’s shoes for a while. You are a founder of a system and one of your newest representative after only a few months after your first contact and the beginning of your cooperation, announces his own program, declares himself as a “Full Instructor” while he had never been tested for a rank or even showing the attitude to really wanting to learn the official curriculum, to declare arbitrarily that he is the representative for the Balkans and Cyprus and finally with his participation in international FMA seminars to compromise the integrity of FCS. We assume that you wouldn’t be too happy with a partner like him.
Moving on, in 2005 Tuhon hands over to the Greek representative the official curriculum on video and he asks him to start teaching it to his students. His response was that he couldn’t withdraw his “fcs Greece version” right away and that he needed some time to adjust to the new curriculum. But after a couple of years the only thing that it’s left was the empty promises of a change and the founder reaching the point of despair. Despair not only because he saw an individual whose only intention was to take advantage of his organization for profit and who seeks to be in charge, but also because he learns about many serious deceptions and devious actions that took place during those last 2 years. Deceptions like “recruiting” foreign instructors during international seminars of other FMA, in order to join him in his little “business” compromising the integrity of FCS Globally. As a result the existence of that “leader” was a constant international “headache” to the founder but also to the whole FCS family.
If you read the “protocol for instructors” in the official FCS website (www.fcskali.com) there is a “rule” who used to be specifically for that reason:
FCS Representatives are free to free to work on projects together with other Representatives. However, they are not to invade the area of another Representative. Also they are not to recruit students away from other instructors regardless of system or school. To do so is considered a great offense.
As for Greece and especially for us who were his students, there was nothing but great disappointment. From 2005 since 2008 most of his instructors left him (either by using diplomacy but many by cursing) and in 2008 those of us that were still around, decided that we should consider to abandon FCS for good. More on that later on.
SECOND POINT:
To your question – Adversities:
there is a point where he states :
- In November of 2008, in the 6th consecutive annual arrival of Ray Dionaldo in Greece, I organized the 1st European Gathering, with the participation of 10 states (except from Hungary).
For reasons that are not in my temperament to mention, the students I had until that time and members of the FCS Greece instructors schools, mainly school owners, went behind my back to the founder of FCS in order to supplant me. Ray, forgetting the six years of my offer, decided to assist in my former students deception.
As you can understand my collaboration with him, stopped permanently.
Just for the record I have to say that Ray never announced anything to me.
From the first paragraph we see once again the falsification and the lies. At first he says that “in November of 2008 the sixth annual arrival of Tuhon Ray…” By the end of the second paragraph the “sixth annual arrival” had become “6 years of contribution”.
From 2003 until the November of 2008 if you do the math, you have five years of contribution and not six (simple calculus). But the devious and low level mind of mr fcsgreece thought that with this little trick will deceit many people and upgrade his years of contribution.
Back in 2009 when we started our own team, FCS Kali Hellas, he stated that we wouldn’t last for 2 years. We closed 6 years and going for 7. Even with his calculations we’re doing a lot better than he ever did. Now there is a reference that there are 10 countries that support his “greatness” but we’ll get back on that later on.
Facetiously again:
For reasons that are never mentioned, his students secretly gather with the founder in order to supplant him. The “evil” Ray assisted to that effort without ever announcing anything to his fallen representative. Now that’s not right, is it? No matter what had happened, all the lies that his jealous students told Tuhon, no matter any deception they orchestrated behind the back of the “innocent” Greek in order to push him away, Tuhon should confront him face to face and to say clearly that he didn’t want him as a part of the system. To those who don’t know the story that seems like valid point on behalf of mr fcsgreece.
2006 & 2007: The years that lead to the disestablishment and the fierce “backstage” dispute with the founder
Let’s pick up from where we left. In 2006 when Tuhon came to Greece he sees many commitments for a change in words but none in action. For a second time he points, strongly this time, to mr fcsgreece that he has to start teaching the official curriculum but more important TO START TRAINING PROPERLY HIMSELF. In an effort to get his certificate and also to show a fake sign of change, he trained for two months (December & January) with the official curriculum (and many parts of the curriculum he trained secretly from his personal students) and in the end of January of 2007 he travels for a second time to America for the Family Gathering where he requests to be tested for the rank of Instructor.
It was his first testing for a rank during his whole FCS career! But let’s not forget that since 2004 he claimed to be a Full Instructor. That event made a good impression to Tuhon because he thought that he finally showed intention to learn the official Curriculum, took it as a sign of change and he passed him during the testing.
When we asked Tuhon about that in December of 2008 weather mr fcsgreece had ever been tested and what his performance was he said:
“He knew everything I asked him to do. But in a level where he could barely execute anything I asked”.
In other words, with promises for change and with him barely meeting the requirements for the rank managed to get the title of “Instructor”. To all of as that knew him that didn’t come as a surprise, we already knew how “hard” he worked.
So even though he showed minimum ability to execute the curriculum, Tuhon as a sign of good faith and in an effort to applaud his attempt to change and the decision to go along with the international regulations of the system, he accepts him as an Instructor. A rank that he will take advantage as much as he can in the years to come even until this day!
But he couldn’t enjoy his achievement because for the last 3 years he claimed that he already had that title! So he will keep it a secret from the Greek reality and from as, his students and his certificate will never be placed up on his wall because you see it had the date of his testing, 2007! Even today if you search on his website or blog the ONLY thing you’ll find is a picture of Tuhon and mr fcsgreece holding his certificate. The date is nowhere to be seen!!
November of 2007: The days of “abundance” and tolerance are over…
In the beginning of 2007 he gets a reward for his “hard” work in the official curriculum and in November of 2007 when Tuhon travelled to Greece he expects to see changes. But instead of changes he sees once again the students of “mr leader” to be tested according to his never approved fcs Greece curriculum. Most of us still remember Tuhon’s bad mood and low-spirit during the whole seminar of 2007. It was like he was a different man. So we started to wonder what could have happened or if he had discovered some of mr fcsgreece’s actions. You see we NEVER had any personal contact or communication with Tuhon.
The oldest trick in the book: controlling every information and interpersonal communication
Whenever someone of us got even for a few seconds alone with Tuhon and started a conversation Mr fcsgreece, like a “crow”, would cut in the conversation so he could control the information exchanged and also to stop any further communication between us and a person of great character like Tuhon Ray.
He knew very well that any further “unsupervised” contact and communication could expose his actions. So the more he would prevent us from communicating with Tuhon the slower we would realize the whole charade.
Tuhon Ray realized that it was time to get rid of that “incorrigible” representative as soon as possible, but he didn’t want to let him have anything that had been accomplished under the FCS name and his work.
So he proposed to mr fcsgreece to organize the first European FCS Gathering in Greece. The “great instructor” was dazzled by this idea. Tuhon then, personally invites all the European representatives to participate and also to test for ranks.
An Excellent plan with Tuhon’s signature.
As we said above, Tuhon asked the European representatives to participate in the first European Gathering AND TO BE TESTED FOR RANKS, so the Greek instructors may witness how the art should be, how they should be trained and move. Mr fcsgreece took that as anoppurtunity to get credits for the participation of 5 countries (a number that he doubled as you can see in the photo 2. He is good in cooking numbers).
Furthermore, because it was the first Gathering that took place in Europe there was a protocol to be followed. And that meant that there should be a Pre-Gathering or Instructor’s Night where every instructor present would either teach or demonstrate parts of the official FCS curriculum, one day before the beginning of the Gathering. Tuhon then announced that he wanted to end the Pre-Gathering with Carenza (a part of the official curriculum never before seen in fcs Greece program and that we had never heard of) but he requested for music. Tough times for mr fcsgreece! He responded that there was a problem with the stereo in an effort to prevent that event. Without any further brawl and with a smart and swift move, Tuhon spotted a TV set with a DVD player, and he immediately inserts a CD with traditional Filipino music. No more excuses!!
Something we will never forget from that first European Gathering of 2008 is the attitude of the Greek representative from that moment on. He jumped behind his desk and pretended that he had an important email to send and with his tale between his legs he didn’t come out until the Pre-Gathering was over (every participant was a witness of that awkward moment).
Tuhon’s plan was simple. He wanted to pinpoint the lack of skill of the Greek instructors (which wasn’t their fault) and to openly deprecate the fcsgreece curriculum. That came as a shock to the Greek instructors and they begun to question the program of the “leader”. Something that opened a channel of communication among us through our justified frustration.
To be honest our jaws dropped to the floor when, during the Pre-Gathering and Ranking testing, we witnessed the level of representatives with just two years of training and also many parts of the curriculum we were completely oblivious about since mr fcsgreece only sold us his DVDs with the NEVER APROVED CURRICULUM for 20-25-30-35 Euros (25-31-37-44 US dollars) depending on the level. He had also started his “famous” fcsgreece instructors schools where he charged hundreds of Euros in order to participate and giving his own pseudo-certificates. How he could justify to his victims, meaning us, that change to “his” curriculum? And why make a change, after all Tuhon “approved” it and was exited with it, right?
Second part of Tuhon’s plan: Create bridges of communication
The second part of Tuhon’s plan came the days during the Gathering. Tuhon had to find a way to use that channel of communication that was created after the Pre-Gathering shock, the best he could. That meant that he had to “lose the leader” who never left him alone.
So he used himself as a bate by staying in the “leader’s” school by himself and reassuring him that everything was under control. He then sends his two American assistants for a “break” along with one of the personal (and youngest) students of the Greek representative who had been assigned to bring back some lunch. That happened right under the nose of mr fcsgreece so he couldn’t stop any “revealing” Greek-American communication. So when they arrived to where they were supposed to get some lunch the highest in rank of the two American instructors begins to “corner” the young student asking him “how were things in Greece, if we were pleased with the administration, how was the Greek representative behaved etc.
For the first time there was an exchange of information and opinions between the Greeks and the Americans. The highest in rank instructor then begins, during the two days gathering, and talks with two other members and instructors crosschecking everything he already knew about the “leader”.
He hears nothing but complains from the Greek instructors. Since 2005 mr fcsgreece begun a frenzy of “aggressive and immoral marketing” in order to expand and create more schools. He reached many known instructors from different arts, who never practiced FCS, claiming their schools as FCS branches. He supposedly wanted to make them to get involved with FCS but his higher goal was to use their names as a publicity stunt and pretend to be in charge and worthy. Something he does until this day. He creates many “fast food” style instructors schools in order to get some value and respect (which he never got) and declare himself as “The leader of FMA in Greece” in order to rebuilt his financial “business”. Since the end of 2006 many people from his organization started to abandon him and usually not in a good way.
What he does today? Same old story…
He exploits new practitioners with his “fast food” instructor courses in order to get the respect he never had. He almost begs and throws free seminars in old colleagues or new instructors who ignore his past, his photoshoped “empire” one with many posts and with a higher purpose of his so called evolution and pioneering work, in order to continue with his “business”.
If you observe his website you’ll think that he is the “emperor” of martial arts in Greece. But if you drive by his school during rush hour you will see his 2 students training by themselves and the “emperor” behind his desk online with a cigarette and a coffee enjoying his greatness. The every day interaction doesn’t work. It’s the only thing he is good at, pretending to be a master knife instructor in other instructors who only see him once or twice a year.
A “conspiracy” of Just and truth…
The truth exists… But lies have to be manufactured.
Picking up from where we left. After the completion of the Gathering Tuhon left for a seminar in Israel. He then returned in Athens, in mid December, in order to get a flight to US. During that time he arranged(via emails) with five of us to meet him at the airport.
So at the airport we had the FIRST contact and exchange of information and opinions between us and the founder, who then informs us that he is planning to delete mr fcsgreece from FCS and asks us to take over the PROPER representation of the art.
In that meeting we all agreed to renounce our ranks from fcsgreece and to start over according to the official curriculum. We also asked the founder, in order to avoid any past mistakes, not to assign a single person from us as a representative but to recognize the entire team us one. Anyone in that team who was willing to work would be rightfully advance. Tuhon gladly accepts and so we founded FCS KALI HELLAS which is the only collective representative of FCS in the world.
The announcement that he never got… at least for 1,5 months
The next step had to be planned by us very carefully. After many conversations we decided in the end of December of 2008 to create a small group to meet the “leader” and to inform him about the reasons that lead 16 of his 18 instructors and practitioners to leave the fcs Greece organization. We also decided to announce him the reasons we wouldn’t tolerate any more his lies, economic exploitation and his unstructured and chaotic training. We didn’t make any reference to our meeting with the founder In order to make him understand that the decision was our own regardless of any outside interventions and after he provided us with enough reasons to leave. And so we arranged for the meeting to take place in his school, a group of us, mostly instructors from Athens, cornered and confronted him for all the thing he had done and JUST to us! A meeting that essentially sealed our exit from his business for good.
At the same time we had arranged with his oldest and personal student from Crete to call him in order to deliver the final blow. Beside his departure as well he briefed him for : a) the meeting of the 5 members with Tuhon at the airport (among them and the instructor from Crete) B) for the total deletion of mr fcsgreece from FCS and c) his revocation of his rank in FCS by Tuhon Ray Dionaldo himself.
So, in a few words he was aware of his immediate and justified deletion right from the start by us.
He is now trying to verify the news but the memory of his indirect humiliation during the Pre-Gathering is still fresh. He tried to call Tuhon twice in one week but never gets a response so he decides to send an email. After 1,5 month Tuhon replied with the same email that he had sent to all the international organizations and instructors-friends from other Filipino systems, explaining the reasons that led to the deletion of the Greek former representative and about his invalid “curriculum”. Along with a text of our own, that we had translated in English, and we had been asked to send explaining the problems we faced with the structure of his organization and his administration(so he would have it in paper). All that happened so the whole FMA world would be informed about his ethics and to cut any ties he had with it.
Pay attention how he is playing with words: TUHON NEVER RESPONDED HIM IN HIS 2 PHONECALLS BUT HE DID VIA EMAIL. He responded after 1,5 months after his email and he didn’t address to him personally SO six years later it’s like Tuhon never announced anything to him!! Not only everything was clear to him but everything was clear to EVERYONE, his name and deceptions were now known to every FMA instructor in the world!
When years later we asked Tuhon why he didn’t respond to his phone calls he told us:
“What could we possibly have said over the phone with him being in Greece and me in America. He would have pretended to be offended. In America when we fall victims of deceit we don’t talk about it over the phone. We do it face to face and clear our differences once and for all. But he didn’t even deserved that, it would have be to quick of a punishment and he would have continued to exploit all of you in my name and recognition. It’s better this way with all of you together and him in the sidelines.”
So was it “deceit” or a justified punishment? Confucius said “there is no better way to be deceived than to thing that you are smarter than everyone else.”
To finish this brief history to SOME of mr fcsgreece’s “actions” it’s obvious that there was NEVER any deception towards him. SINCE 2005 HE WAS GETTING ANNUAL REPREHENSIONS FROM THE FOUNDER TO COMPLY. DOMESTICLY?? IT WAS A CONTINUUS WAR ZONE! But unfortunately in our country no one is going to search for the truth….
Since day one the founder had made very clear to him that he wouldn’t let him loose after witnessing his atrocities. To us it was very clear, especially after the seminar of 2007 and after his dispute with Tuhon that there was something going wrong between the two men and that mr “leader” had it coming. But even when he knew that his dismissal was around the corner, during 2008 before the Gathering he still taught his “version” of the curriculum.
The guidebook for building and promoting martial arts, through the exploitation of world known systems and symbols, compliments of fcs Greece
He had given it a lot of thought. If something got wrong he would keep his fcs Greece curriculum and the official FCS logos and he would stick to his little story, that his “simplified curriculum” whose he was the ONE(&FIRST) who created it, had been enriched with knowledge from seminars and training from other FMA. That new and enriched curriculum was “so great” that he had to create his own program, the fcsgreece program. He also had the audacity, and take our word for it, to state to his students that his program is more technically advanced than FCS because it contains elements from Sayoc Kali, Modern arnis and other FMA.
But even with all that makeover of the curriculum to a “program/system” didn’t stop him from keeping the logo and the name of the art, an absolute legacy and property of the founder of FCS, in order to gather more “victims” by using the recognition of FCS.
Many young colleagues who enter the world of martial arts in our country and who ignore this history are usually his target group. They are potential victims. They read his pseudo-sites and blogs and they are been deceived by the many photos and tampered evidence they see. He also promises them that in 40 hours or 8 weekends of training with him will give them the right and license to teach the fcsgreece program!! And so history repeats itself…
We are dealing with a man who, after just 4 years of training, in the age of 20 he created his own modern fighting style karate (1985). And after a few years a new “complete” system that he recreated but never bothered to change the name or the symbols. A system he based on other people’s names and hard work. And why would he do that? To honor his instructor, who tried to teach him values that never learned and who don’t even want to hear of his name? Or perhaps to punish us for the way we treated him, for no reason at all!!!! Just because we wanted to be the ONLY representatives in Greece, without him. Probably not!! It was because of his selfishness and his arrogance. Or as he sais in your interview “love” for what he does….
To summarize:
You have in your hands two sides of a story. In one hand you have someone who is a “pioneer” of deception, words and marketing, with a record in “self manufactured records”, a man who one day and while everything was doing great and he was rising FCS with his “great skills”, his “evil” students decided to plot against him, for reason he will never bring up because his temperament won’t allow.
On the other hand you have the story as it’s been experienced by us and crosschecked in 2008 with the founder. A story that explains only SOME of the reasons, for the first time in 6 years, that lead to the deletion of the above “pioneer”. Take under consideration that we’ve done only a brief outline of his deceptions and mostly for the events that had to do with the founder. We haven’t even begun to talk about all the “actions” that had to do with us, his students. If we wanted to do that we would need a lot more space than a website to even summarize all the events!!
If you choose to believe mr fcsgreeces story you will have to admit that we are great in making stories. You will also have to admit that the particular individual unlike the rest of his interview, was very humble and prude when he was referring to the part with the reasons we wanted to supplant him. Ultimately you would have an issue to justify how so many people, Greeks and Americans, decided to plot against ONE man!!
If now you lean towards our side of the story you will agree that if you were him, just for the sake of his “temperament”, YOU WOULDN’T WANT TO STATE THE REASONS THAT LED TO THAT SO CALLED DECEPTION, WOULD YOU?
To summarize about a lead representative of “BAD BUDO” in our country:
Mr fcsgreece had never been a substantial connoisseur of the official curriculum and he never tried to do so. Since his deletion the curriculum has radically change in 2011 and with small modifications this year(2014). He couldn’t handle the curriculum of his time. We won’t even attempt to speculate what he would do with today’s curriculum. He never TRULLY studied, trained or even begun to comprehend all the different aspects and principles of the art as his big ego, laziness and his will to be in charge never let him.
Mr fcsgreece after many lies, deceptions and even offences of the penal code, has since 2008 been deleted permanently from FILIPINO COMBAT SYSTEM and his rank has been revoked( he has been deleted from the official list of instructors)
They have also revoked his right to use the logo and name of FCS, something that’s an absolute legacy of the founder Tuhon Ray Dionaldo.
He shamelessly over the last 6 years haven’t stop to exploit the logo and name of FCS. He has been reproached 2-3 times over the internet from foreign high ranked FCS instructors who openly declared that they do not recognize him as one of them and that he shouldn’t exploit the logos of the art and the founder. But of course the “pioneer of deception” after these posts he hides into his little nest for a few months only to rise again exploiting the fact that we TOLERATE HIM and of course continuing to exploit our system with a higher purpose to manipulate more “clients” who will ultimately drain financially selling them “knowledge”, “records” and shameless lies.
Finally mr fcsgreece is the only teacher who advertise that he is the only Greek certified instructor in two internationally acknowledged FMA. With one way or the other he states that he succeeded to receive the rank of senior instructor in Modern Arnis just because he brought mr Presas Jr for seminars in Greece (may 2010). Today he declares ARBITRARILY AGAIN that he is a representative in the Balkans and in Cyprus and the story keeps on going… We would like to believe him, it’s just that in the official website of mr Presas Jr (http://www.modernarnis.com/), while his name is among the names of the instructors (Lakan’s), in the list of schools of the system there is no reference of him being a representative in Greece(or Balkans). Additionally we saw mr Presas Jr in Greece in 2010 just ONCE.. We wonder why…?
So the man who claims to be the only certified instructor in two FMA, in the first one he has been dishonorably discharged and deleted and in the second one he isn’t even a representative(in Greece, Balkan, Cyprus) he just lies about being one. Also he isn’t under the guidance of a well known master like mr Remy Presas Jr for his further education. Well he obviously doesn’t need one since he already knows everything!
We should note that he is the only instructor in Greece who claims to be a certified instructor in two international FMA and organizations (with the lowest ranks for an instructor in both of them) and he has never had an international instructor to teach one of those arts, and expand his own knowledge, like WE DO EVERY year.
The man we described above has the audacity in 2014 to get Tuhon Ray in his mouth and accusing him of deception after everything he has done in the past undermining FCS and the founder in an NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL LEVEL.
Dear colleagues of martial arts in Greece,
The criminating evidence and the personal experience we have from that “wellknown” undereducated, egomaniac and exploiter mr fcsgreece are so many that after all that we feel that we haven’t even scratched the surface. We enclose 2-3 photos from the “old” days with his actions(we have a LOT more).
But for the end we would like to close with the words of the founder Tuhon Ray Dionaldo about the whole subject of the pseudo-curriculum and also about a subject that we didn’t want to analyze but we will let you read from a correspondence between the founder and a member of our team(who wasn’t in the airport meeting) and who was trying to verify if everything he heard were true. A correspondence that had been posted in the website of our colleague and it has been reposted many times since then from many other “fellow-victims” of the “leader” instructors and students of other systems, in martial arts forums.
1)Fcs Kali Hellas Member: You were saying to Mike that he should change the way that he was teaching F.C.S. KALI declaring that you were sad about our level? Mike
claims that you didn’t do it and that you always giving him congratulations about our level.
Tuhon Ray: Mike was informed from the beginning that if he did not teach the FCS
curriculum, we would not recognize any of the ranks. I was there. That was
true. They learned “Mike’s curriculum”. That is true. They learned “Mike’s
curriculum” well. That is also true. They did not learn FCS. That is not
their fault. I gave Mike time to begin to change to the FCS way, but after
several years, saw no change. The complete lack of the ability to carenza
is more than enough proof of this! Even the most basic of our
practitioners can carenza.
FCS is more than just a catalog of several techniques thrown together in
random order. It is the way we think. It is the freedom to explore the art
as well as our-selves. It is the deep understanding of the art and
our-selves that enable us to move as we do.
I let him have a Gathering in Greece so that the rest of Europe would come and show what FCS is supposed to look like. The FCS curriculum was clearly posted on the website for everyone to see. This was no secret. All the world tests according to what is posted on the website, and it shows. Mike did not follow this, and it clearly shows… Need I say more?
I’m not a baby sitter. I expected that Mike would know right from wrong. I
had hoped that he would change the way he did things.
2) Fcs Kali Hellas Member: Was Mike telling lies about the way that he was using your name and F.C.S professionally? For example did you know that he was asking for 500
EURO in order to bring you in our school for a training-seminary? This was
the reason that you did not visit my school the last two years.
Tuhon Ray: I had no idea that Mike was charging 500 Euro each time. I was happy doing
it for free as a way of thanking all of the school owners for their
support. I had no clue that Mike was charging you all behind my back.
Remember, I don’t speak Greek, and I don’t read Greek. The only
information I received was from Mike. My only other way of knowing
anything was if anyone else said something. And no one ever did. Why?
Abraham Lincoln once said:
You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time
Socrates came and add to that:
Something that causes great evil in life is the fact that while most of the people are stupid the keep thinking that they are smart
To mr fcsgreece personally we’ll say what we’ve been saying all along, as boring as it may sound:
Stop lying, fool and exploit those that surround you and mainly stop exploiting symbols, names and the recognition of Tuhon Ray Dionaldo and FCS in order to make money and recruit new members who ignore the History, poisoning their minds with lies.
Since the end of 2008, you are not welcomed by the FCS family we’ll say it again loud and clear:
YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT AND PERMITION TO USE THE LOGO AND THE NAME OF FCS AND TO EXPLOIT THE LEGACY OF THE FOUNDER OF THE SYSTEM. THE FOUNDER WHO DELETED YOU FROM EVERYWHERE AND WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU AS DO WE. COMPLY AND PRETEND YOU HAVE EVEN A TOUCH OF ETHICS.
Closing we would like to say that we aren’t pointing any fingers for what happened to the portal that hosts the interview or any other website. We just want to inform everyone that every time they post a photo or material that contains the triangle symbol with the sword and the letters of FCS they indirectly contribute in the exploitation of the legacy and work of one of the greatest masters of modern FMA.
They may not have any responsibility for what happened but from this day on they won’t be oblivious of the whole situation. That’s enough for us.
Thank you for your time, we wish you all the best
Respectfully
FCS KALI HELLAS TEAM
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